jump_jormp

[bn]

This is a higher tier soldier map that's mainly based around syncs with 11 levels. Almost final version, looking for some feedback on how the jumps feel and spacing.

Remember to complain now if this gets on tempus.

Update to actual actual final version: http://www.mediafire.com/file/0l9lgt16yvg5ft1/jump_jormp.bsp

Think it's actually pretty decent now, so retry it if you feel like it.

Showcase:


Level descriptions:

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1. Sync -> shoot phase floor -> wallclimb
2. Wallshot -> telesync on wall -> turn corner and wallshot to end
3. Pre-double -> upward ramp double -> phase wallshot -> end or wallclimb
4. Sync -> turn corner to wallshot -> turn corner to ss -> wallcatch/sync
5. Downpogo -> shoot off phase wall -> get into the hole however you feel like
6. prefire lower green strip and then higher - > walk into the catapult where the white on the ground is -> triple wallsync -> wall double to end
7.  Telesync -> longer telesync -> prefire at ramp -> hit telesync -> wallshot to catch up to rocket -> ramp double
8. corridor wallshots -> ss -> prefire at wall with green outline -> surf on ramp -> sync another rocket at wall -> shoot off ramp into wall
9. Double wallshot to set up wall triple on the white square wall in front -> the wall triple has a two rocket timing and you shoot the second timing rocket at the green -> wall triple and catch up with second timing rocket to sync with it -> do a triple and wallcimb up
10. Prefire at purple strip ->  triple straight up (the tele is shown by the green box and only works from the bottom) -> come out under the purple strip ramp to sync with prefire for an upward ramp double -> use the ramp to get to the end
11. Slide down grouping 3 rockets towards bottom platform -> sync skip off top phase platform -> wallshot down to grey ledge for speed -> group two rockets on bottom plat for a sept to end
12. Surf sync into green square -> quint -> wallsync on other side

B1. jump_sync 24 with a stop platform

[kiddeR]

played this for about 2 hours, was unable to complete 6, 7, 9, 10 and 11
1. jump feels random, you can't tell how close you are to the phase at all, just need to fire randomly
2. good jump
3. very easily cheatable by climbing the back wall behind the jump near the connector and doing a triple, otherwise okay
4. also very easily cheatable by tripling at the start and then doubling on the ss plat, I find the catch bit at the end while doing it legit very boring
5. okay
6. this jump is feels entirely luck based, I'm not sure how to change this to make it okay
7.  you need to hit the gnarliest telesync of your life and a crazy good wallsync, not to mention I have no idea how you fit in a triple on the ramp
8. change the ss texture to something visible and it's great
9. never even got close to beating this one, timing is hard and the height is pretty crazy at the end
10. if by sync skip you mean sync ss, I was still unable to do this as intended. I was able to hit a ctap quint to make it though
11. how is the grate spaced? you fly over it if you get a good quint so I'm not sure what to do here, is possible to just luck it with a bad quint however

[bn]

Updated to b14: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ew7vp6zzx22ffil/jump_jormp_b14.bsp

Changes:

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Added trigger_hurt and overheals on the syncs

Jump changes:
1. Tried making the phase glass easier to see
2. unchanged
3. Removed cheat
4. Removed cheat, made ss platform less blinding
5. Added tele to rim of bottom hole
6. Increased shootable area on starting right wall. Made prefire locations lower, closer, and bigger. Connected two prefire areas with shootable wall. Made distance off second wall sync shorter.
7. Redone to: Telesync -> longer telesync -> prefire at ramp -> hit telesync -> wallshot to catch up to rocket -> ramp double
8. Made ss platform less blinding
9. Fixed timing on the wall triple which got messed up some how, it is much less tight now
10. Added tele to upper skip platform
11. Lowered quint platform, the timing on this needs testing since I cant seem to quint offline very consistently

9. never even got close to beating this one, timing is hard and the height is pretty crazy at the end
10. if by sync skip you mean sync ss, I was still unable to do this as intended. I was able to hit a ctap quint to make it though

Thanks for the feedback, a lot of it went into the changes.

I disagree on these points though.
For 9 the timing was too fast I agree, but the height it isn't too high and can be overshot with a quad. This made me hesitant to want to raise it though, but with further testing I might
For 10 you can def do it with a sync skip, the timing is tight though and I might try to loosen it up a bit.

[kiddeR]

played through it again
4. I think I wasn't clear in what the cheat I meant was, not sure what cheat you removed since the one I meant is still here
6. I think you made the jump better but I honestly can't tell since this jump feels entirely random to me still, had tons of close attempts where I just got too good of a catch (spent around 30 minutes on this)
7. you can very easily cheat this by telesync > wallshotting 4 times for speed > rampshot to end
9. the timing is still tight as hell for the wallsync and I was unable to hit a quint that sent me high enough, managed to squeak it out with a quad. No one will actually do this with a quint I think, they'll just go for quads because you need a pretty precise walltriple to get the right angle to sync up well
10. literally unable to get a catch good enough to do this
11. seems better

[bn]

Updated to b15: http://www.mediafire.com/file/x5z61j4ve83z1z7/jump_jormp_b15.bsp

Changes:

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5. Increased size of circle you strafe around and slightly increased size of phase wall. Much harder if impossible to do with a raw strafe now and requires at least a wall shot most likely.
7. Added height check at end
9. Adjusted timing some more, made it impossible to complete with a quad, slight geometry
10. Adjusted height of both the bottom sync platform and the set up platform for the drop sync, reduced length of glass floor check after skip, I think its easier to be consistent on now and much easier for sight timing

played through it again
4. I think I wasn't clear in what the cheat I meant was, not sure what cheat you removed since the one I meant is still here
6. I think you made the jump better but I honestly can't tell since this jump feels entirely random to me still, had tons of close attempts where I just got too good of a catch (spent around 30 minutes on this)
7. you can very easily cheat this by telesync > wallshotting 4 times for speed > rampshot to end
9. the timing is still tight as hell for the wallsync and I was unable to hit a quint that sent me high enough, managed to squeak it out with a quad. No one will actually do this with a quint I think, they'll just go for quads because you need a pretty precise walltriple to get the right angle to sync up well
10. literally unable to get a catch good enough to do this
11. seems better

Thanks for the feedback again, its been very useful so far.

4. I don't mind that cheat now tbh, there were much easier ways to set that up before that I removed
6. I feel like this is possible to get down consistent now, it has an internal timing of sorts and the only solutions I think I could try is giving a more upward angle coming into the first prefire area somehow
9. The timing is a little more loose now again, you can always step back on the set up to the wall triple, but that leaves less time to catch up to the prefire. It is def possible and not too hard, hitting it launches you into the skybox.
10. Hopefully I fixed this okay

I feel this is close to complete now, I will add one more jump most likely between 9 and 10 and finish detail and a release should be soon after that

[bn]

Updated to b17: http://www.mediafire.com/file/2afmt6cbqp86189/jump_jormp_b17.bsp

Changes:

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6. Removed right wall shots in favor of jump ceiling tele thing for the prefires
9. Ceiling at the end should now funnel you into the end zone and prevent slamming into the skybox and failing
10. Added a new jump: Prefire at purple strip -> group your triple -> at some point prefire up at the 3 toned ramp in the middle on the grate -> triple straight up (the tele is shown by the green box and only works from the bottom) -> come out under the purple strip ramp -> sync another rocket there to upward ramp triple towards the other ramp -> ramp double to end

Timing I used for the new jump, but maybe not perfect for you so I don't want to set it as "This is totally how to do it" :

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Shoot first prefire as you are walking off the edge -> aim down while still holding +attack for the first in the triple grouping -> shoot second prefire somewhere near the bottom.

This is basically the final version of all the jumps barring some more input if anyone has it.

[League]

what is 5 suppose to be

[donuttt]

....
5. Downpogo -> shoot off phase wall -> get into the hole however you feel like
....

[bn]

Yeah you basically just have to shoot off the far wall now for 5.

I'm messing around with 9 now again, trying to make it a bit easier and more consistent. Not sure if it's worth it, but whatever

[CrackuhJax]

For jump 6 are you supposed to pre-fire both green strips? From my testing, if you pre-fire both strips you don't have enough time to tele-sync and then triple on the bottom green strip. And you removed the wall at the end so are you just supposed to wall shot once after the triple? That requires an amount of perfection that just seems t o o  m u c h

[bn]

Okay so this is actually the final version as far as all the jumps are concerned. This will not get updated again.

Final version: http://www.mediafire.com/file/0l9lgt16yvg5ft1/jump_jormp.bsp

All updated jump descriptions are in the OP.

Quick rundown of changes:

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6. Changed to use a catapult instead of a telesync
9. Changed to a regular double instead of conveyor and wall sync
10. Changed to only an upward ramp double prefire
12. Fixed spacing and increased skybox height

[bn]

Fixed a few bugs and made a showcase.

[Adolf The Toast Jesus?]

In the version I have, on 10 you get teled into the box but then not out and you become stuck in there. 

[Starkie]

for momentum cancelling teleports you can just put a catapult inside your teleport trigger with velocity set to 0 instead of tele'ing you in and out of a black box