jump_repente

[Finn91]

T6 bounce/bhop map for Soldier
T3 Demoman I think

Looking for any feedback

DL link : b4 - https://drive.google.com/file/d/14eOQJ4X2v22gB2hFNSmm8c0AA1Lf09Kj/view?usp=sharing

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b1 -  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wzeg1DadTW3jpY6oGHNU54I_cJOcgOng/view?usp=sharing
b2 - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L7Z7OOdCJdVbcprBs0YFFe7QRfK-uHVe/view?usp=sharing
b3 - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iVzFoNrUY0i37D4apYd1eu9zGd1oXC89/view?usp=sharing

 

[shakez]

Hey
I was bored, so here's a wall of text:

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I didnt really have spacing issues but here are a few thoughts:

First of all: The intro is kinda cool and makes most things quite clear

jump1:fine

jump2:fine

jump3: Kind of feels repetetive, since its almost the same as jump 2. But it works fine.

jump4:fun

jump5:fun

jump6: fun

jump7:
It's quite easy to cheat the 2nd bounce with normal pogo / catch and then pogo.
Probably doesnt matter too much since the jump is quite easy.
But i like how you can also sync bounce it and get to the end.
Also, the glass ramp is shootable, but it looks like it isn't supposed to be like that.

jump8: Alright

jump9: Jump is alright i guess but it felt quite a bit harder than the previous jumps. Feels kind of wrong in that spot, difficulty wise.

jump10: Cool jump but i think the pogo at the end is quite unnecessary
also timing the 2nd bounce felt weird, but that might just be me

jump11: Also very cool.
You can skip 2nd pb with wallshots, but thats a kinda cool strat i guess.
The bhop platforms probably have the wrong texture scale/rotation. They are big white squares atm (instead of small, rotated ones) which is confusing

jump12: Fine, but it was quite a bit easier than 9,10,11 imo

jump13: Nice jump

jump14: works fine, but should probably be earlier in the map since its also not that hard. That is if you know the timing (which is very intuitive tbh)

jump15: The quint platform kind of looks like you are supposed to pogo on it which is a bit confusing

jump16: fine

jump17: Quite fun jump. But since i didnt know where to go the first time i tried the jump i went backwards at the end and failed haha

jump18: Fine.

jump19: Since there are only a few sync platforms in the previous jump, the sync platforms kinda confused me and i treated them as pogo stuff first



As ive mentioned a few times now, the textures arent quite consistent throughout the map, the white at least. The big white sometimes is nonade, sometimes shootable, sometimes tele, sometimes notele
Idk if that was intentional , but it was kind of confusing at some points
Therefore think it would be a lot clearer if the white notele floors had a completely different texture

A very minor thing that kind of is related to this: some pogo platforms have a black frame, others dont

Im a fan of the brush detailing you've done on some jumps (like jump17,start of 7,...). I'm not sure if you are done with the design of the jumps yet, but it would be cool to see the other, rather boxy jumps, detailed like that.
I also like the bounce labels, they are very clear and clean. Would be great to see jump numbers like that (or any at all once the jump order is final)


Ok, that was enough text for now.

TL;DR: Fun map (if you like bounces (: )

[Bob Dynamit]

Holy crap this map is crazy!!

At first I was like "meh" im not interested in another bounce map, especially not if its t6. But after reading shakez' feedback I decided to download it.

Loved the intro. I would change the last instruction to make it more clear. I didnt quite understand it on my first walkthrough and as a result got stuck on 4. (bc I didnt realize I have to land on the Auto EB crouched). Maybe something like this would be better:
"If there is a uncrouched bounce/bhop after a ramp, you have to hit the EB on the ramp uncrouched."
"If there is a crouched bounce after a ramp, you have to hit the EB on the ramp crouched."
Just a suggestion though, maybe Im just smol brain and am the only one that didnt quite get what you meant.

Also a skip the intro button might be helpful for when youve played the map before and dont want to replay the intro.

After realizing the ramp thing on jump 4 I really liked it. It is honestly the best bounce jump I have ever played. Loved the bounce combination with auto EB.  Spacing was just perfect for me!

Also the 4x PB (j11 or so) felt way easier than the jumps before and should (imo) be earlier.

Im not good enough to give enough to give relevant feedback on the other jumps. Also the map is quite long for a bounce map imo.

I absolutely loved the detailing on the later jumps though!
This one is my favourite: https://imgur.com/a/AJmkucn
Kind of a jaw dropping moment for me, since I didnt expect at all coming from the previous jumps. This jump has this kind of evil atmosphere to it. I cant quite explain why its so great, it just feels good ingame. I dont think it quite transfered in the pic but ingame i loved it.

If possible, please detail the earlier jumps as well 
Maybe, if every jump is detailed like this, it could lose its wow effect though. Maybe thats why you didnt add as much at the start. In that case, adding increasingly more detailing with increasing jump number could be an idea. For example it starts out with a simple window on jump 1 and then gets more crazy along the way. Just an idea though.

Also the name sounds like it is a spell from Harry Potter. Pretty cool.

I really liked the map, even though Im not nearly good enough to finish it. I would still try to see how far I could go once the map comes online anyway. There are some really fun ideas here. 

[Finn91]

Thanks for the feedback both of you, very useful.

Map updated to b2

• Fixed texture incoherences
• Re-ordered the jumps
• Increased the wall size of former jump 12 to avoid being owned
• Deleted the wallpogo part of former jump 10 and adjusted a bit the wall before ramp + extended the platform for the 2nd bounce (timing is the same, it's weird Ik)
• Fixed the intro text concerning the auto-edgebug part, I'll add a skip button later
• More jumps are detailled

I'll add jump number later if no one complains about jump order. I need to finish detailling and it should be all good. A TAS showcase is coming too
Still feel free to give feedback about anything

[riot]

its always nice when last is a nuke but i think you've scaled the difficulty decently

[Finn91]

Updated to b3

• Added jump numbers
• All jumps are detailled (I hate detailling so it could be better but whatever)
• Added the button to skip the intro

Map should be finished and ready, showcase soon

[Finn91]

[VAVLIE]

Very good stuff, high quality mapping all around. Very refreshing considering the garbage we've been served in the past few months. 

Cool level ideas, lots of interesting stuff going beyond your typical bounce map, and well executed overall. Solid detailing, it's nice to have a bounce map not made out of shoeboxes with aggressive flat rainbow textures. Very much enjoyed the indicators (big thanks for adding if the edgebugs were crouched or not), not needing tooltips makes the map so much more enjoyable to learn. 

My only complain is in a few places the floor textures made it a bit hard to understand your speed. It's also kind of a shame some cheats sneaked through unnoticed, but hopefully this means next map will be even more robust.

Great work, looking forward to your next one!