Jump_buh

[Grandma]

Hello! This is my first jump map: jump_buh!

It's intended for Soldier, guessing it's T3 has 15 jumps. Only one random dude I met on JA has run this as demo and he told me he thinks its T3 on demo so :shrug:.
The map is basically finished now, not detailed, real basic looking and I think that's fine.
Prefix on some versions is rj_ because I got sick of changing the gamemode in mmod through console, map still functions fine in both tf2 and mmod.

I have a to do list for this map already (will post after this) but I'll still be super grateful for anyone who takes the time to check out the map and give me any advice. I just want the map to be good B).

Any advice still appreciated, I'm working on another map now will post about it at some point when I'll need second opinions on spacing and such.

Here's the current map dl

jump_buh_b3

https://jumpacademy.tf/maps/buh/b3

rj_buh_a10
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yzH7aOudUXyAP2rbVRZfF72kzk4BPTS2/view?usp=sharing
jump_buh_a8b:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1opetGGPtJeCCjqHnv4Visyf-bLd9hwsB/view?usp=sharing

(jump_buh_a6):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Nue_lPTDMGkA6u8Erv9Zifzhj56Qm_m/view?usp=sharing

For the people who cba downloading the map, here are a couple vids of people going through the map:
Slower/showcase run through by Agent Apples on jump_buh_a8b:


and a speedrun by Pevkele on jump_buh_a6: https://medal.tv/games/tf2/clips/6U561qGTQFPx7/d1337HnIUZtQ?invite=cr-MSxyT2ssMTYxMTkzMTks

(apparently is a bad run)

Thanks for reading 

[Grandma]

Epic to-do list:



Done till someone suggests something urgent




Will have another version with various changes done at some point soon B)

[Finn91]

Hello, here are my thoughts

https://imgur.com/a/YH9aYbY

 jumps 8-9 feels quite harder than the rest, maybe it's just me.

Also, you might want to optimize your map, it takes quite some time to compile when it shouldn't, and this will get worse and worse as you add jumps and detailling (the worst part is that every solid brush in your map counts in world geometry, use some func_detail). I'm not the best placed to speak about optimization, but if you have questions you can add me https://steamcommunity.com/id/finntf291/

Otherwise maps is fun, speedrun will be cool

[Grandma]

hey, thanks for leaving the feedback, just wanted to respond real quick here before I post about the next update:

I'll use numbers to respond to each bit of feedback in the order they show up in here: https://imgur.com/a/YH9aYbY

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1) I haven't changed those walls in _a8 since when I was running a few times I messed up on the ramp just before it and manage to still do the jump with some shoddy wallshots, I quite like the feeling of managing to 'recover' on a jump like that, so I haven't changed it.

2) Yeah, the grey roof is there to prevent people from cheating the jump by jumping off the starting platform, it's been removed in _a8

3) Starting platform is nonade in _a8, u can still skip the double from the connector but to me an angled triple is harder than doing a straight down double to a straight down triple. I think the spacing has changed to where you probs can't manage to do a triple just from doing a rj, not 100% sure though.

4) Floaty stuffs have been fixed in _a8

5) I haven't made the pogo and sync platforms more distinguishable with textures yet, it's one of the next things I plan to do relating to detailing/finishing up the map

6) Similar answer to 5, ramps have been an annoying thing to texture :s

7) I believe I've fixed that weird hole at the end of jump 2, basically just extended a brush to cover it, I haven't seen the hole for a while, please let me know if it still shows up for you

8. That was placed there on purpose, someone was trying to find different ways to do the jump and asked me to place a little ramp there. I've kept it in so far, I'm planning to add a secret eventually and that area is a likely spot of a trigger going to said secret.

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+ Also made jumps 8 and 9 easier, 8 has water at the start of it and 9's left wall has been extended
++ I've optimised the map by func detailing most things that I could and optimised lightmaps.

[Grandma]

Hello hello, sorry this has taken me a while, here's the next update.

 jump_buh_a8b:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1opetGGPtJeCCjqHnv4Visyf-bLd9hwsB/view?usp=sharing


Main changes are:

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- more jumps all connected (15 total)
- added nonade to every jump
- added text on wall telling what bounce on jump 11 is (copied from oats mapping resource vmf (thx oats))
- func detailed and increased lightmap texture thingies around the map to help with compiling
- probably fixed most weird looking textures but likely not all (will do more of when I try to make the map look a bit prettier)
- put Gorge's regen prefab on the map (thx gorge) :]

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-tweaked jumps
  - jump 4, increased landing area at end of jump to make easier
  - jump 5, brought forward and lowered sync platform as well as bring forward ending platform to make   easier
  - jump 6, removed and replaced completely
  - jump 7, end platform brought forward to make easier
  - jump 8, added water at the start to make easier
  - jump 9, extended wall closer to end to make easier
  - jump 11, ending platform moved further away to make harder
  - jump 12, spacing changed a bit (can't remember exactly how)

Will update dl in original post.
Here's a vid of agent apples showcasing this version of the map:

 

[lily]

really nice map! it's fun to hit the connector strats and speed through everything.

i don't have much to say about the jumps themselves because they all seem good but here's some very minor feedback to consider. it's my first time testing a map so you can take it with a grain of salt

- the best start for speedruns is probably going to be a triple telesync, which is fine by me but i think some people dislike telesync starts so you can consider whether you want to add one of those invisible wall thingies to block prefire rockets

- it's possible to just pogo jump 6 on the red, but i guess you can leave it like that if you want the jump to be easy

- https://i.imgur.com/Fql6dd4.png at the end of jump 7, i often feel the urge to sync off the left wall here, but it's nonade atm. perhaps extending the shootable part of the wall back a bit would give more freedom

- https://i.imgur.com/hISJUXE.jpg also at the end of 7, if you slam into the back wall (by wallshotting across the top of the jump), you're then forced to awkwardly backtrack a little to enter the connector tunnel. from a speedrun perspective it's annoying to get punished for slamming the jump, so maybe it's worth making the tunnel wider so that you can enter it from the back wall?

- it's already on your todo, but i agree with making 14 harder

- https://i.imgur.com/D50OPd4.png on my first go at 15, i was somehow stupid enough to fall into this pitch-black hole behind the loop lol, so maybe just put a tele there or something

- i know the end isn't finished yet so maybe you're already aware, but it's possible to zoom too fast and slam past the end platform

great stuff

[Klowwd]

Very nice start just some feedback on some jumps:

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don't know if you care but the red floor texture on 3 isn't aligned properly

on 11 I think the top of the wall should be playerclipped because you can land on it very easily

on 12 i don't know whether you're supposed to go under the gray wall or over it, but I just doubled, wallclimbed, and then tripled

sped through everything, got stuck for a bit on 13. seems to be the hardest

the left ramp leading into the teleporter on 15 doesn't extend to the wall

[Grandma]

Hello! Sorry it's been a while again.

Here's the next version:

rj_buh_a10
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yzH7aOudUXyAP2rbVRZfF72kzk4BPTS2/view?usp=sharing

Still works fine in mmod and tf2. I can't fully remember every change but I believe I've made changes based on every piece of feedback I've been given, here at least. Let me know if there's anything else I should change.

Main changes (that I can remember)

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- added different textures to first couple jumps (likely to change back to dev if enough people complain about it)
- raised trigger on Jump 3
-added nonade to end of jump 5
-raised trigger on Jump 6
-removed section of nonade on jump 7 and (sorry to my water haters) added a layer of water in connector between jump 7 and 8 (I'm willing to remove this if people really don't like it)
-added very necessary forg
-flattened wall on jump 11
-added nonade on walls next to start of jump 13
-added a skip to the end of jump 14
-closed off big jurf thing on 15 so u can't leave it from the sides
-added tele to weird hole thing that I don't even think u can fall in anymore but just in case :]
-J15 changed distance of end(i think?)
-added cap point(doesn't actually work)
-changed lighting, lowered brightness in some places and added lights in some darker areas

P.S ignore the tele and room u can get to at the end of the cheese stick, I've been having trouble packing custom textures into the map, will work out problem soon

[Grandma]

Maps basically finished as far as I'm concerned, unless there's something that means it can't be added to Tempus that I should fix.
(I'm so funny when I said 'soon' in my last post )
Can't remember changes/too many small ones to put in a list.
It's staying as basic af textures cause making stuff super pretty in hammer scares me.
Thank you so much to everyone who has helped me with this.
I hope people have fun running.   

rj_buh_b1

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fk_Q7xQxSc-eFzKAkXSlLtje48k7Tl0c/view?usp=sharing


edit > just noticed a cow and some frogs have turned into errors + accidentally put in a goofy af spec camera mega far from the map so u Zo0o0om to it when u go spec, hopefully that isnt a massive problem lmao

[Grandma]

added working cap, got rid of props that were errors and renamed to have jump_ at the start

jump_buh_b3

https://jumpacademy.tf/maps/buh/b3

If you downloaded this version from a Google drive link delete the version u got from there, I just fixed a missing textures in this version and it was too late to rename since the map was uploaded onto JA already, keeping the same name just saves a lot of work

[riot]

Lvl 5 start destination should probably be moved back a little, feels like you reset too close to the edge
Lvl 7 pogo spacing needs attention, very easy to go too fast for 2nd/3rd pogo rockets
Lvl 8 second ramp is weirdly close to first one, IDK if this is intentional as the jump is obviously still beatable
Lvl 9 left wall either flush or well clipped pls
Lvl 10 ramp should probably be longer, easy to overshoot it with too much speed and not be able to fit a rocket on the ramp
Lvl 13 wallshots either flush or well clipped pls
Lvl 14 wall should probably be 1 or 2 squares longer, easy to be too fast and not able to fit 3rd rocket
Lvl 15 feels like the last ramp is meant to be steeper than it is, feels like you need to slow down a lot to actually make it decent