Alternative to trigger_hurt for healing players

[Zeq]

It seems the change preventing engineers building in trigger_hurt volumes was reverted in the last patch (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=15854) so I have updated this post to reflect this.

Original post:

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UPDATE: It seems the original idea I had induced micro-stutter, so I have updated the post to fix this!

The November 20, 2014 patch for TF2 (https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/November_20,_2014_Patch) contained, among other things, this change:

• Added a check to prevent building in trigger_hurt areas

I have noticed that this has broken the "engineer compatibility" with many jump maps, since a lot of maps have a big trigger_hurt around the entire map with a negative damage amount to keep the player constantly healed.

I don't know if people are aware of this or if there is already a widely known fix for it, but I made one myself and am now posting it here. Instead of using a trigger_hurt I did the following:

• Place a logic_timer anywhere in your map
• Set the "Refire Interval" to something like 0.5
• Add the output: OnTimer | player | SetHealth | 1000

This will make all players in the map regain their health (no overheal) every 0.5 seconds! It also makes the health-regen global, but it could be enabled or disabled on specific players by changing their targetname if need be.

Keywords: TF2, Engineer, trigger_hurt, Building, jump

[Tx_]

prefab pls 2lazy

[Zeq]

prefab pls 2lazy

Added a prefab in the OP.
Edit: removed the prefab since the fix is now so simple.

[Dr. Heinz]

prefab pls 2lazy

Added a prefab in the OP.
Edit: removed the prefab since the fix is now so simple.

And what is the fix?

[Oatmeal]

prefab pls 2lazy

Added a prefab in the OP.
Edit: removed the prefab since the fix is now so simple.

And what is the fix?

Before it was some trigger stuff, now do you just have to place that one logic_timer as described in the OP and it works fine.

[Trude]

Doesn't that nullify region specific regen?

[Zeq]

Doesn't that nullify region specific regen?

Indeed it does. It can be solved by changing the targetname in the timer though. Instead of targeting player, you can just make it target a name like "healme". Then you can create a trigger_multiple with the outputs

• OnStartTouch | !activator | AddOutput | targetname healme
• OnEndTouch | !activator | AddOutput | targetname player

Whenever a player enters the trigger, they will be named "healme", and the output on the timer will heal them. When the player leaves the trigger, they will once again be named "player" and the timer will no longer target them.

[AI]

For sentry jumping support on older maps, see Nobuild Patch (Sentry Jumping).

[AI]

Today's TF2 update has resolved this issue:

Updated trigger_hurt entities to allow Engineers building in them when they are set for zero or negative damage

[Oatmeal]

Today's TF2 update has resolved this issue:

Updated trigger_hurt entities to allow Engineers building in them when they are set for zero or negative damage

Just as planned. I knew it was a good idea to not update my old maps.