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Using sarcasm on the internet doesnt make you a bad person  :(

Trolling isn't sarcasm silly  ::)
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Welp. I basically won't believe SourceTV runs anymore.


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Welp. I basically won't believe SourceTV runs anymore.

Who's to say the POV's are believable too? I mean we can't do anything, these guys are releasing it. We all knew it would happen one day..
« Last Edit: September 29, 2015, 09:31:36 AM by Vexon »
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For anyone wondering, POV demos with both mine and his are detectable. Not sure about STV.


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I agree with Vexon. Publicly releasing the TAS tool to make it easily accessible for everyone is essentially digging out the challenging part of speedrunning/ trickjumping, and dumping it in the trash can, especially for bad jumpers who would rather use brainless unoriginal cheats to get a bit of 'efame'.

Even for people who genuinely enjoy jumping and the challenge of it, even if you don't give a shit about 'efame', it would still be really demoralising to see some script kiddie replicate what you've worked on in weeks, within a matter of minutes, and with no penalty at all. Repeating this over and over would probably be enough to drive away most jumpers, with the mentality of "fuck this place I'm out". Imaging someone TASing soar under 4 minutes. How likely would you be to willingly try WR runs on this map? Cause you know everything you can come up with is gonna be 'bad'.

idk about online jumping but I don't think it would survive for long without a strong base in offline jumping.

And as for detecting TAS I'm sure someone might be smart enough a reverse engineer a TAS tool based on the released one to make it harder to detect..

TAS tool should always be kept in the hands of a selected few, and even then should be used sparingly. But I guess it might be too late now (hope I'm wrong).
« Last Edit: September 29, 2015, 09:51:24 AM by reindeer- »


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Well RIP any run thats not on tempus I guess.
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man cannot ascend with worldly values holding him down
man cannot ascend with worldly values holding him down
man cannot ascend with worldly values holding him down
man cannot ascend with worldly values holding him down
man cannot ascend with worldly values holding him down


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So much salt...


But TAS is detectable, just ask for POV demos as proof and stop bitching. Legit runs/trickjumps will still be as impressive as before, only now there will be another thing for jumpers to spend their time doing and improving at, arguably increasing the size of the community. TAS and legit runs have always co-existed in almost every game that is speedrun, and they will in TF2 also as long as people don't keep demonizing something so trivial and shitting all over each other with their egos.


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« Last Edit: September 29, 2015, 10:14:41 PM by John »
man cannot ascend with worldly values holding him down
man cannot ascend with worldly values holding him down
man cannot ascend with worldly values holding him down
man cannot ascend with worldly values holding him down
man cannot ascend with worldly values holding him down



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also, I'm totally going to try to cheat using extremely easily detectable TAS even though I actually run you retard


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please i dont want this to happen nonononooo
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http://tf2rj.com/forum/index.php?topic=1347.0


i'm gonna try to steal money from my parents so i can buy your plugin
« Last Edit: September 29, 2015, 01:25:29 PM by scfld »