The hardest thing in soldier jumping?

[Ladyboog]

Yeah, you can see the polls, I have asked this question once or twice on tempus, but the results were different each time, so I made this topic. Keep in mind that I am not only talking about techniques, it involves every shit, that takes a long fucking time to do it (consistently enough, if we are talking about techniques) .

Bonus question: What's the hardest thing in demojumping? (I think it is unarguably airpogo, but correct me if I am wrong)

[HyperDan]

edgeshots

[879m]

Why are edgebugs on the list? They aren't a class specific skill.

For that matter, bounces and speedshots also aren't, but since you only really do them on huh it's understandable. Same with flawlessing.

[Vexon]

I dunno this could go a number of ways. If we're talking wallpogo for 10 minutes, or 30 seconds, if corner pogos are involved, and speedrunning a map same thing. It could be trying to flawless beef or we could be talking gateway, we need specifics ladyboog..

[Ladyboog]

I dunno this could go a number of ways. If we're talking wallpogo for 10 minutes, or 30 seconds, if corner pogos are involved, and speedrunning a map same thing. It could be trying to flawless beef or we could be talking gateway, we need specifics ladyboog..

Talking about the average "values", don't go balls deep and for example try to flawless squared.

[Ladyboog]

Why are edgebugs on the list? They aren't a class specific skill.

For that matter, bounces and speedshots also aren't, but since you only really do them on huh it's understandable. Same with flawlessing.

I don't remember that this thread is about techniques that can be done only with soldier. You almost never use any of the 3 mentioned techniques as demo, and I think we can both agree that flawlessing a t4 map as soldier is harder than flawlessing a t4 map as demo. After realizing and pointing out in your own comment that these techniques are rarely used in demo jumping led me to the thought that you are just trying to be annoying.

[catfoosh]

I think the 1 word answer to this question is "consistency"

[Ladyboog]

I think the 1 word answer to this question is "consistency"

Keep in mind that I am not only talking about techniques, it involves every shit, that takes a long fucking time to do it (consistently enough, if we are talking about techniques)

Although you can't edgebug consistently.

[plep]

you can't edgebug consistently.

edgebug are consistent, just so precise that mere mortals have to rely on luck. Remember when speedshots were considered "luck-based"? Yea, me neither cause that was a shit long time ago but still.

[Ladyboog]

you can't edgebug consistently.

edgebug are consistent, just so precise that mere mortals have to rely on luck. Remember when speedshots were considered "luck-based"? Yea, me neither cause that was a shit long time ago but still.

I mean yes, obviously, it is mathematically possible, but we are all humans (who don't use TAS programs in this case), that's why I said that. Please don't nitpick, it's not cool.

[plep]

Don't try my pickiness

[879m]

Why are edgebugs on the list? They aren't a class specific skill.

For that matter, bounces and speedshots also aren't, but since you only really do them on huh it's understandable. Same with flawlessing.

I don't remember that this thread is about techniques that can be done only with soldier. You almost never use any of the 3 mentioned techniques as demo, and I think we can both agree that flawlessing a t4 map as soldier is harder than flawlessing a t4 map as demo. After realizing and pointing out in your own comment that these techniques are rarely used in demo jumping led me to the thought that you are just trying to be annoying.

How is demo easier to flawless with on a same difficulty map? Do you mean in a speedrun sense or just beating the map with no fails, because there is a big difference between speedrun strats and normal playing as demo.

[Ladyboog]

Why are edgebugs on the list? They aren't a class specific skill.

For that matter, bounces and speedshots also aren't, but since you only really do them on huh it's understandable. Same with flawlessing.

I don't remember that this thread is about techniques that can be done only with soldier. You almost never use any of the 3 mentioned techniques as demo, and I think we can both agree that flawlessing a t4 map as soldier is harder than flawlessing a t4 map as demo. After realizing and pointing out in your own comment that these techniques are rarely used in demo jumping led me to the thought that you are just trying to be annoying.

How is demo easier to flawless with on a same difficulty map? Do you mean in a speedrun sense or just beating the map with no fails, because there is a big difference between speedrun strats and normal playing as demo.

Soldier maps as demo. Triple pres all day, boyyyyyyyyyyy

[879m]

Why are edgebugs on the list? They aren't a class specific skill.

For that matter, bounces and speedshots also aren't, but since you only really do them on huh it's understandable. Same with flawlessing.

I don't remember that this thread is about techniques that can be done only with soldier. You almost never use any of the 3 mentioned techniques as demo, and I think we can both agree that flawlessing a t4 map as soldier is harder than flawlessing a t4 map as demo. After realizing and pointing out in your own comment that these techniques are rarely used in demo jumping led me to the thought that you are just trying to be annoying.

How is demo easier to flawless with on a same difficulty map? Do you mean in a speedrun sense or just beating the map with no fails, because there is a big difference between speedrun strats and normal playing as demo.

Soldier maps as demo. Triple pres all day, boyyyyyyyyyyy

so what about t4 demo maps? koi flawless is on a similar level as ayers_v2 flawless, and there's a bunch more t4 demo maps.

[Ladyboog]

Why are edgebugs on the list? They aren't a class specific skill.

For that matter, bounces and speedshots also aren't, but since you only really do them on huh it's understandable. Same with flawlessing.

I don't remember that this thread is about techniques that can be done only with soldier. You almost never use any of the 3 mentioned techniques as demo, and I think we can both agree that flawlessing a t4 map as soldier is harder than flawlessing a t4 map as demo. After realizing and pointing out in your own comment that these techniques are rarely used in demo jumping led me to the thought that you are just trying to be annoying.

How is demo easier to flawless with on a same difficulty map? Do you mean in a speedrun sense or just beating the map with no fails, because there is a big difference between speedrun strats and normal playing as demo.

Soldier maps as demo. Triple pres all day, boyyyyyyyyyyy

so what about t4 demo maps? koi flawless is on a similar level as ayers_v2 flawless, and there's a bunch more t4 demo maps.

I see you have a hard time actually reading and understanding texts, so let me explain why I said that t4 maps are easier to flawless as demo. Because doing a t4 soldier map as demo is easier than doing a t4 demo map as soldier. I wouldn't say that if each class had to do their own type of map (soldiers do soldier map, demos do demo map). Please stop nitpicking and trying to get a point in this useless argument, it has not much to do with the topic's question anyway.