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wiping is super stupid and shouldn't be allowed (at least for people with wrs, but honestly for everybody)

only reasons people ever give are really stupid and it shouldn't be a thing unless they cheated


also wtf is all this bullshit about making maps doable as soldier. also gay


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i propose that if wiping is allowed for reasons outside punishment it should come with at LEAST a one month ban from all servers

people wiping and then coming back 3 days later shouldn't be tolerated or encouraged
« Last Edit: January 10, 2017, 09:24:00 PM by Melon »


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i propose that if wiping is allowed for reasons outside punishment it should come with at LEAST a one month ban from all serivers

people wiping and then coming back 3 days later shouldn't be tolerated or encouraged
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No, but seriously, wiping should only be a punishment because wrs that get wiped take away from everyone else trying to get said wr. idk, I just don't think you can wipe all willy nilly...
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yes ideally wiping outside of punishment shouldn't be permitted but I have a f e e l i n g that its not going to change so having an alternative is the best I can do


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wiping is super stupid and shouldn't be allowed (at least for people with wrs, but honestly for everybody)

only reasons people ever give are really stupid and it shouldn't be a thing unless they cheated


also wtf is all this bullshit about making maps doable as soldier. also gay
i propose that if wiping is allowed for reasons outside punishment it should come with at LEAST a one month ban from all servers

people wiping and then coming back 3 days later shouldn't be tolerated or encouraged
No, but seriously, wiping should only be a punishment because wrs that get wiped take away from everyone else trying to get said wr. idk, I just don't think you can wipe all willy nilly...
Manually wiping is done on a case by case basis with a few key factors considered and not done by request only. Player initiated wiping was a heavily requested feature in the past and still remains a frequently used feature today. I do understand the concern of wiping players who have crossed the threshold of 5 WRs (so they can't do it themselves), and the overall stance of this has changed very recently in favour of preserving records.

To recap, any decisions made to wipe players manually were not made without considerable reasons, but this is very unlikely to happen in the future. Player initiated wiping is still very much open to discussion but as it stands currently there are no compelling reasons to change it.

Overall I think wiping is beneficial for the players themselves, but can have some obvious ramifications depending on what was wiped.

also wtf is all this bullshit about making maps doable as soldier. also gay
I don't understand what is wrong about this. It provides new content without actually having to create new content, whilst also having.. ZERO ..impact on demo runs.
If there is some hidden issue in all of this please elaborate. I may just be blinded by my wallpogo-tinted glasses.


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also wtf is all this bullshit about making maps doable as soldier. also gay
I don't understand what is wrong about this. It provides new content without actually having to create new content, whilst also having.. ZERO ..impact on demo runs.
If there is some hidden issue in all of this please elaborate. I may just be blinded by my wallpogo-tinted glasses.
Scotch please network last is still around 0.01% harder as demo now, but in all seriousness if you're going to fix maps for soldiers why not fix the only t0 thing for demo as well?


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i propose that if wiping is allowed for reasons outside punishment it should come with at LEAST a one month ban from all serivers

people wiping and then coming back 3 days later shouldn't be tolerated or encouraged
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dont you ever put me in the same category as him EVER AGAIN CHUCK, you're better than that!


as for my reason for wiping occasionally, it's because i'll do a map and accidentally forget to turn the timer off (most of the time) or if i wanna see if I can beat a bonus wr for shits and kicks but that shouldnt matter nobody cares about bonus wr's anyway
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when u've quit jumping but you don't actually quit so you keep wiping yourself to tell yourself that you've quit...


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Can't you just keep all top 10 times and change the runner names of each wiped top time to something random? So if Boshy would wipe himself all his tt runs would become "Bugs Bunny", "Micky Mouse", "Goofy", etc.

This way you don't know who did it anymore, but you still have the time as a reference for other jumpers.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2017, 05:04:41 AM by Oatmeal »


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Or just rename anyone who tries to wipe to "dumbfuck"


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There may or may not be a solution in the works to alleviate concerns of wiped WRs.
Can't you just keep all top 10 times and change the runner names of each wiped top time to something random? So if Boshy would wipe himself all his tt runs would become "Bugs Bunny", "Micky Mouse", "Goofy", etc.

This way you don't know who did it anymore, but you still have the time as a reference for other jumpers.
Keeping all wiped TTs may be a bit excessive as they don't serve any real purpose. Where a WR is a baseline for excellence and something to beat and compare your checkpoints to, a TT is none of that.

Currently a player needs less than 5 WR times to be able to initiate a wipe themselves.

Scotch please network last is still around 0.01% harder as demo now, but in all seriousness if you're going to fix maps for soldiers why not fix the only t0 thing for demo as well?
I don't think a single bonus would warrant a fix like that, depending on how it is impossible for demo it may just end up being a 2 point triple pre pipe WR bonus. I've ignored several t0 bonuses for soldiers simply because the content it creates is no where near the amount of work needed to source a fix for it.

With that said, I will look at it and there could be a fix for it in the near future.


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Currently a player needs less than 5 WR times to be able to initiate a wipe themselves.

while that is technically true, this rule can easily be gotten around by account sharing or freezeglitching and getting caught on purpose
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