What do you hate in jump maps?

[BoogieManTF2]

I'm about to start on a new map. What are some things you absolutely don't like or even hate in jump maps.

Some examples from my personal experience:

• The teleport spot being far away from the jump itself so you have to walk a bit before you can try again.
• Miss-aligned textures.
• Textures that make it hard to see where you're going.
• ...

Let me know what yours are so I can avoid them.

[Dr. Heinz]

That you keep flying forward after you failed a jump.

[?oss]

buttons

[Superchuck]

ramp(bug)s

[BoogieManTF2]

buttons

Boy do I have the perfect map for you.

[HyperDan]

ctaps

[?oss]

buttons

Boy do I have the perfect map for you.

[plep]

Poor optimization (includes: bad fps, glitchy stuff etc.)

Ugly detailing

Luck-based jumps (put them as bonuses)

Buttons

Any boring wallpogo that you can't skip with like epic wallshots, bounce or bhop

C O R N E R P O G O S
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Walls that wallbug a lot (when they shouldn't)

Ramps that rampbug a lot

auto-edgebugs that aren't consistent (example: jump_claustro_v2 edgebugs are 100% consistent ; jump_flashback first auto-edgebug fails a lot)

TELEPORT_DESTINATION NOT BEING 1 UNIT ABOVE THE GROUND (except when having it higher to build up speed is actually fun and useful)

And like Heinz said: jumps that don't allow you to reset quickly after you fail (like falling forever down a pit)

[fishy]

bad rampslides (luck based)

[?oss]

Any wallpogo

tru that

[gibus]

textures with no depth (e.g. concept, dahl, yona, keratomy)

[Vexon]

buttons

Boy do I have the perfect map for you.

LMFAO

[Syro]

Here are some of the things that I hate the most:

- A lack of effort in a map's detailing
- Inconsistency in any regard
- Designing things at the wrong scale (tends to make things feel cramped when they aren't)
- Clashing colors/textures
- Prematurely "finishing" a jump, thus making it less than what it could have been
- Ill-advised spacing
- Idiotic design decisions

ctaps

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[pants]

Mondays

[879m]

Something that I've been noticing in recent maps is size. Unnecessarily large jumps and connectors ruin good maps and either make strats prefires or airpogos that <5 people could do in runs. Instead of adding more units, add a turn at the end, or make the jump harder as is.