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A Green Box and How Tempus Points Rot the Brain

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Let us begin with a look back at recent Tempus events.  In early December of 2020 Newjuls was having a fun time completing maps on stream when he found out you can finish runs as the Heavy Weapons Guy, and many people followed up with getting funny wrs as other classes. This lead to all course maps but jump_vertuosic being disabled on tempus. This however did not stop vov&sons or vi from getting their own Heavy Weapons Guy wrs. This lead to the understandable temporary bans of vov and vi due to jealousy that vi has more hoes and stacks paper to the ceiling. This is the birth of the misconception that an American cabal is out to target Boshy and ruin his life. 

Later that December Mazzli unveils that he placed a dev route into jump_dahlia allowing him to break the map wr as demo and spawning this Tempus Records video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlWakTjdCGc&t
This is breaking point number one. Mazlli requested but a simple Tempus Records video of this funny exploit in order to celebrate his culture's sacred holiday of Kwanza. He understood however this time was illegitimate and deserved to be wiped, however he thought we could have a laugh at this silly strat with a video. This requested video was initially denied as seen here:



Thankfully the valiant knight, Sir Larry, a victim of such oppression in the past, expedited the video seen above.
Dubbed the Tempus Terrorists, the American squad moved on bummed about their fallen comrade. They thought to themselves surely this will pass. They were unfortunately mistaken.

Continuing with the festivities of the holiday season, this outfit of Tempus scientists looked to jump_beefmas for some fun Christmas time shenanigans. After some legitimate wrs, the group came up with the Present Theory which can be seen here: https://clips.twitch.tv/FuriousApatheticEelTF2John

The Present Theory consisted of using present props to get stuck in to start a run with 3500 u/s and then surf off another present straight to the end of level 2. Sadly Tomato Tom could not wr in time before the Beast awoke. Tomato Tom was subsequently banned for this. Ignoring the other 10 people involved including others who did runs with this strategy.

The Christmas season ultimately ends with one last romp on jump_beefmas c1. The great founder Rob123 was not known for his strong zoning abilities. This lead to the following cheat on the course:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e7_DHBlqfY&feature=youtu.be

Now we arrive at the present with the Great Green Box of jump_housebeta. What was thought to be an insurmountable obstacle for the past 6 years of Tempus speedrunning had finally been cracked. This was to be the barrier skip of TF2 jumping. Instead of having to pogo in place for 30 seconds an interesting timing strat could be employed to save massive amounts of time and remove an objectively boring part of the run. The skip as well as a more detailed explanation can be seen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbULELRy278&t=1s

Now surely when map exploits like headbugs seen on jump_rnc are allowed or the spook skip on jump_devils, the green box skip would also be permittable. After all the timing window is 0.25 seconds which is far more lenient than that of a bhop which is a 1 tick window or ~0.015 seconds. Additionally, there's no outside commands needed such as noclipping out of bounds to start on the jump_spaghetti b1 wr (which was Boshy's own strat not one he was copying from the new wr). Despite all of these reasonable arguments for why this strategy should be fine, the Boshy has said no. This is why the Boshy believes the strat should not be allowed:


For starters a teleport bind like /r is not even necessary when a kill bind would work just fine. Additionally, it is very interesting how much of those techniques/strats that were just mentioned would not fall under this classification. Furthermore, you have strats like the jump_steak edgebug in the soldier wr. For those unfamiliar, jump_steak is essentially playing through the map for 2 minutes just to hit an edgebug to wall catch. This somehow isn't resetting a run over and over trying to hit a strat once though?

This green box brings us to the most recent breaking point and to my hypothesis of how excessive amounts of Tempus Points corrupt the human brain.

For those of you keeping up with Tempus happenings, you may remember Boshy announced him stepping down from admin a few days ago seen here:

This is perfectly fine wanting to step down from administration responsibilities. Unsurprisingly losing an active admin lead to times such as jump_damer b2 being blatantly cheated and unwiped for a few days, and many highly requested maps like jump_diamant and JMC maps not being added. Curiously, within 20 minutes of Boshy losing his jump_housebeta wr to a new strat he joins the server disables the map, wipes the times, and forces Gorge004 to give him stripper code to remove this strat from the map. Surely such a drastic change of altering a map should be left to the players, or at least a collection of moderators/admins. But no. This choice was made solely by Boshy for what very much seems like him not wanting a strat to exist because he doesn't like it. This is further supported by the recent changes to jump_aando b3, jump_artificial b4, and jump_rvr b5. Boshy silently used stripper to add telels to block these possible "T0" jumps from being completed simply because he did not want to do them. Who is he to decide what people are allowed to complete on Tempus? Further exercise of this autocratic dictator-like power is seen in his recent declaration about a "rule update" as seen here:

While on paper such a rule sounds good, in practice this is simply Boshy exercising his control over Tempus as there are no other admins to consult. Do you honestly think for a second Sere or Rob123 would have a strong opinion about something like the green box skip? This really can be interpreted as ask Boshy if what you are doing is ok or else you will be banned. Boshy has needed reality checks on his power in the past from Lord Scotch. However with his general inactivity lately Boshy has been operating as he wishes.

Now at this point you, dear reader, may say this is being blown out of proportion why didn't I just reach out to Boshy directly? Well excellent question! I did in fact initially apologize to Boshy after the Mazlli incident saying that if there's more he wanted to talk about in relation to this stuff I'd be glad to. I suggested wait a bit so he could come back to this level headed and then he never brought it up with me. Now you of course would wonder why I do not provide chat logs for proof, and I would love to! However, after the green box skip Boshy, being the bastion of problem solving and compromise that one would expect in an admin, decided to remove me (and reero) from his friends list without a word! Not only did he remove me he permanently banned me (and reero) from his twitch channel! This can be seen here:
https://i.imgur.com/SmX2K16.png

This isn't a uniquely "death to Americans" problem the following other people have received similar treatment based on simply taking records from Boshy:
  • Waldo broke jump_gman b4 and was removed, in-game muted, and twitch banned.
  • Katto swept jump_phase and was removed, in-game muted, and twitch banned.
  • Skye started taking some max velocity soldier bonuses and was removed, in-game muted, and twitch banned.
  • juup broke jump_when b5 and was removed, in-game muted, and twitch banned.

Here is also some proof that waldo's, reero's, and my bans from boshy's twitch chat were not for us saying something dumb:
https://i.imgur.com/yVcqdGa.png
https://i.imgur.com/hQGj7y4.png
https://i.imgur.com/E1Se1RF.png



It is frankly insulting to the Tempus community that someone so unbelievably petty and power-hungry is arguably the most powerful person on Tempus right now. Such behavior is clearly demonstrating that Boshy is not fit to continue being admin under these conditions and he deserves to be demoted to moderator if even that. This is also simply my interactions with him and the larger American community. There are plenty of others with valid grievances towards Boshy that I more than welcome people to share to further prove my point. I would strongly suggest someone like Exile for admin in addition to more admins in general so someone cannot act without their power being unchecked.

TL;DR:
Boshy bad
Exile good
#Exile4Admin





 


« Last Edit: February 09, 2021, 01:04:15 PM by Zike »


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Reminder that Boshy saw no problem with going to a different server and playing with the zones after failing to retake a bonus for an hour.

So much for "not negotiating with terrorists" -- I guess spending triple digit hours on high effort maps doesn't save you from a one month ban over a joke that took minutes to revert!

Also fun fact, for a couple weeks Boshy uploaded all sorts of random demos I was in, entirely to dig through chatlogs since he's paranoid and thinks everyone's talking about him behind his back (which is true, but entirely because he pulls shit like this).

I guess your brain really does turn to mush when you obsessively retake everything for 5 years while pretending that it doesn't ruin the game for everyone else.


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Just wanted to also add that this has been happening in some capacity as far back as 2017 when Larry took jump_zekro wr from Boshy leading to these chat logs.





There's also this classic video from when Larry took jump_attached c4 from Boshy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0_ZPj-ky2M
« Last Edit: February 09, 2021, 01:11:22 AM by Zike »



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According to boshy's own rule book and severity of what he has done. Taking away his admin seems like an easy way out.  Anyways, may the drama continue.  8) 8) 8) ;)


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I support any other adequate person to be replacement for boshy for admin
Nobody likes boshy except his closest friends and his stream subscribers. Boshy gets dislikes on his wr videos because people dislike HIM as a person, not because they are envying him.
He is a bad admin, because of so many things: he intentionally doesn't add wallpogo maps because he HATES wallpogo mains, he stated : "nowadays wallpogo maps are not in preference". I remembered when I accidentally watched one of his latest streams he said that wallpogo mains have no skill, and they have mastered only"wallpogo" gimmick but nothing else. Boshy is a very egoistic and pressuring person towards people who can take his wrs, he simply looks down on anybody who ever took his wr (I'm not saying that boshy is a bad jumper, in fact, he's probably the best soldier speedrunner for t1 to t5 maps), so he spends the rest of his pathetic life to snipe back those wrs .  For example I found a clip of certain jumper who had a beef with boshy several years ago, stating that boshy had mental issues when it came to tempus points (twitch clip: https://www.twitch.tv/arvinge/clip/SecretiveAmericanTomatoFailFish?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time). Another example is Ymir, who got pressured into quitting tempus for several years, boshy calls him "cheater" and boshy HATES Ymir.
For those who remembered Jump_when incident, which was pretty much a thing where boshy said where he hates people running when, because they are preventing him from playing on server (rank 100 or 50 server) : clip: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568531271265812496/799053088895664228/2021-01-14_00-09-51.mp4
also:  https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/vY6-KTkcMqHqvWbgOq-pxNwRJzVZgnYfYtZFgb0PJxM/https/steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1776074655454938881/164D1FAC7DAD1546B225338ED1AAB165D3DAD2FD/
I don't hate Boshy, I admire him as Jumper, but not as a person


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This turned out to be a disaster. Not because of you obviously, but how it was handled by boshy etc. I don't understand why he did it this way and it just doesn't work well.

In more serious comments, this is unbelievably petty stuff from boshy and very hypocritical, especially with the spaghetti b1 record. It's definitely a show of bad faith when you "step down as admin' then continue to exert your power and babyrage because people find unique and new interesting ways that threaten your "best jumper ever" moniker. I do believe that the heavy run banning was comical, but bans were unnecessary and only wipes should've been apt.

I can definitely see an issue with maz's dev route but that can easily be patched out and times wiped, same with the heavies, that doesn't need to be a big deal.

But the removing, blocking, twitch banning of prominent users and increased hostility is not cool and isn't a good look at all. All you're doing is making yourself look like a colossal twat. This isn't people "abusing unlocks", these are actually cool and creative ways of expanding our already existing knowledge of the game and making new discoveries and breaking barriers we didn't know were there. Not encouraging this type of stuff and outright banning people for it is a huge mistake in my opinion. Like zike said before, Rob wasn't the best at zoning and finding new stuff to workaround the system in a lighthearted way is cool, but straight up punishing people instead of just wiping times and just saying "This will be fixed, thanks for bringing this to my attention." shows what type of person boshy really is. I don't see this as "protecting the integrity of Tempus" or whatever asinine response will be put forward - this is a deliberate attempt to silence people who are already criticising your use of powerful admin tools and behaviour in the community and well as unfairly punishing those who find cool tricks and things that can be fixed and can make jumping a better and cooler experience.

I used to respect boshy and personally never had any problems with him but I cannot look past this blatant power trip and lying to the community, the "looking for demos" to see when people talk behind your back to possibly ban them and literally ban anyone who criticises you and tries to make rational conversation. Absolutely appalling behaviour. Not only this but it's clear that despite my neutral remaining on boshy for so long, the only ones that like him are people close to him or people not in the community that know his true personality. This isn't someone who should be representing this community at a higher level as "the best jumper".

This isn't what our community should be about, either. We shouldn't be petty and creating divides in the community. We're all here to have fun and chill out and clearly the upper-tempus power structure needs amendments in who is staffing it, however that may be. Maybe this wouldn't be as big as a problem if it was a smaller server, but Tempus is the primary hub for most speedrunning in TF2 jump so this has to be addressed.

I cannot say for myself whether boshy will even care or listen to our replies of outrage and disgust, but it's clear that many people are unhappy with his actions and Tempus needs to completely remove his admin permissions ASAP, and not just a feigned "I'm stepped down" while still having full control and authority over the server.

This is very upsetting and disgraceful to what has otherwise become a nice and friendly community in the last few years.




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