A Green Box and How Tempus Points Rot the Brain

[Bos-ado Fanboy 6]

Why do we need all this drama?

[Zike]

When I was saying it should be discussed, I wasn't necessarly saying an open poll to everyone. Some decision are better done behind closed doors. Problem here boshy is the only active admin and the vocal part of the community mostly just memes about everything.

I used community rather liberally here of course johnnydemoman924 shouldn't be a part of this but some mods and runners should be able to decide on this problem, not just Boshy. I have quite a bit of a history in not liking things being blanket anyone can voice their opinion, especially related to Momentum Mod issues. I wouldn't want this to be any different.

[hex]

When I was saying it should be discussed, I wasn't necessarly saying an open poll to everyone. Some decision are better done behind closed doors. Problem here boshy is the only active admin and the vocal part of the community mostly just memes about everything.

I used community rather liberally here of course johnnydemoman924 shouldn't be a part of this but some mods and runners should be able to decide on this problem, not just Boshy. I have quite a bit of a history in not liking things being blanket anyone can voice their opinion, especially related to Momentum Mod issues. I wouldn't want this to be any different.

what do you mean, jump_titan is a great map that everyone loves

[generic]

Without putting my two cents into the box and maz thing, because I don't know about it much nor care enough to learn; I do think Boshy has made too many poor decisions when it comes to being an admin, and have said such publicly on occasion when relevant. I appreciate the amount of work and effort and care he puts into jump, but I do think the repeated mistakes to outright abuse is an issue. It would be one thing if it was just once or twice, but its like, every 2 to 6 months some really silly stuff happens that an admin has no business being a part of.

To be fair with my biases, we have had personal issues before, which I consider well in the past personally, and I want to make it clear I'm not advocating or mentioning this issues because of those. Its only because I think do think your moderating is an issue. Its def part of the reason to why i stopped jumping, and while there isnt much personal stake in this anymore still think my opinion is worth something.

I do think that NA didn't randomly decide to dislike you, or would even dislike you if they didnt have issues with your moderating. I'm not even sure how much of it is real dislike beyond being frustrated at repeated apparent examples of bias and abuse. I don't dislike you at all, although i will mention issues i have with your moderation. The personal attacks on you are super unnecessary regardless though. Its also well past the point of return, but this thread is so much more vitriolic then it needed to be.

Overall I would appreciate at the very least more admins.

I'm a large fan of the diller gorge picks for admin. I do think exile hasn't publicly or privately participated in egging boshy on beyond just being in a friend group with zike and reero, and has done a good job at staying uninvolved beyond just being in discord and making a meme, so I'm still a fan of her as admin as long as she doesn't go easy on or make decisions based on those friendships, but i totally respect wanting to keep an involved parties members friend out of it. 

[879m]

Here's something to compare the green box skip to.

Consider asdf, where demoman must bhop on 3rd last to compete for wr. As we all know, a bhop is much more precise than 0.25 seconds. One might even call it tick perfect. Missing this strat means resetting the run. If this bhop was removed since it promotes grinding until you hit a precise timing, devoid of jumping skill which will allow you to contest wr, the alternative is speedily pogoing down the jump as intended. And yet, because it is a bhop, I can't recall any talk of this strat being removed.

So we have asdf, where the alternative to a much more precise strat would be skillful speed pogo, and housebeta, where the alternative to a much less precise strat is pogoing in place for 30s. But we absolutely have to fix housebeta because the skip (which skips very easy pogo for an arbitrary amount of time) involves "no jumping skill".

You know, I always thought that precision, whether in timing or positioning, was an important part in a jumper's skillset.

Finally, I'd like to know what supposed bad things I've done. Rather than just allude to them, tell me. I can't think of anything. Regarding the offclass wr bug, I never set a time. Sure, the maps were disabled, but I never actually did anything on it. In fact, Reero mentioned afterwards he was going to kick me if I got near the end.

[UberTaco]

good talk guys

[Skinny]

similarly one of his boyfriends also have a bwr where the demo is missing. Most of these wrs are using some mysterious strat and the other top times are usually quite far behind

I literally only have one bonus wr:
https://i.imgur.com/7QrzRTn.png
and if that's not enough proof then it's even uploaded on the bonus collections here:

About 5:10 if timestamp won't work

[Scoob]

#wallpogomainsdidnothingwrong

[Skye]

similarly one of his boyfriends also have a bwr where the demo is missing. Most of these wrs are using some mysterious strat and the other top times are usually quite far behind

I literally only have one bonus wr:
https://i.imgur.com/7QrzRTn.png
and if that's not enough proof then it's even uploaded on the bonus collections here:

About 5:10 if timestamp won't work

I was referring to kip's nmotion2 bonus 2 dwr(as you can see in my report)
https://imgur.com/a/Z3QDQO8
https://imgur.com/a/EKVC4xK

[ondkaja]

More proof.

In the demo where Boshy breaks gaylord b2, you can see that he changes the start dz to extend further out before he starts running the bonus:





However, since this, the start dz of the bonus has been reverted back to the original place:



So there has definitely been fiddling with the gaylord b2 dz's in such a way that it benefits Boshy, as the dz being further back starts the timer slightly earlier.

[Skinny]

I was referring to kip's nmotion2 bonus 2 dwr(as you can see in my report)
https://imgur.com/a/Z3QDQO8
https://imgur.com/a/EKVC4xK

Kip is not dating boshy, never has and is she/her

[Beagle]

I think this much larger problem then songs wipe?

[HyperDan]

More proof.

In the demo where Boshy breaks gaylord b2, you can see that he changes the start dz to extend further out before he starts running the bonus:





However, since this, the start dz of the bonus has been reverted back to the original place:



So there has definitely been fiddling with the gaylord b2 dz's in such a way that it benefits Boshy, as the dz being further back starts the timer slightly earlier.

I feel like this is definitely something serious that should be discussed. The only way I feel like this could be justified is if boshy moved it to the end of the floor, but then it was reverted by another admin such as Scotch. Then again, I don't know when this record took place, and if it was recent, then this has to be investigated further. But we also need to see what boshy says on this, because right now there's only your view on this, which is that he meddled with the trigger, when there may be an exterior motive, whether malicious or not, which explains why it was moved then subsequently reverted (or rolled back)

[ondkaja]

I feel like this is definitely something serious that should be discussed. The only way I feel like this could be justified is if boshy moved it to the end of the floor, but then it was reverted by another admin such as Scotch. Then again, I don't know when this record took place, and if it was recent, then this has to be investigated further. But we also need to see what boshy says on this, because right now there's only your view on this, which is that he meddled with the trigger, when there may be an exterior motive, whether malicious or not, which explains why it was moved then subsequently reverted (or rolled back)

You can watch the demo yourself and form your own opinion, which I encourage you to do: https://tempus.xyz/demos/567078

He changes the dz and immediately starts running the bonus, and gets this time (which was then a WR that stood until January this year) with this modified dz. At some point, this change was reverted but Boshy's time still stands, giving him an unfair advantage.

[HyperDan]

You can watch the demo yourself and form your own opinion, which I encourage you to do: https://tempus.xyz/demos/567078

He changes the dz and immediately starts running the bonus, and gets this time (which was then a WR that stood until January this year) with this modified dz. At some point, this change was reverted but Boshy's time still stands, giving him an unfair advantage.

I've taken a look at the demo, the first thing I thought when I skipped to the record time is that this was just a mistake when he first set up the zoning as he joined the map, but I went back to the start of the demo and it clearly shows that the zone was already made at some point, and THEN boshy moved it forward. Another thing I noticed is that when he gets the record, he "sets the time" for the bonus:



This record was "set" on February 2nd, 2018. Was anyone wiped around this period of time? Jondy maybe? Was gaylord a new map at this time? I only ask because I think it's odd that the zone was already set up, but no one had set the first time before boshy moved the zone forward and set it in this demo. I may just be looking too far into this but this is stuff I've found and questioned while l looked through the demo. My only thinking, if it was not intentionally moved to benefit boshy, was that at some point during this period Scotch, or another admin, reverted the zone being moved towards the end of the platform and overruling boshy's change.